tie rod ends

tfs2121 · Post by **tfs2121** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:10 pm

i got new tie rod ends with a new rack and the tie rods dont fit in my car

are the tie rods that came with my rack for 87-93 cars? if so can i just order 85 tie rod ends as an easy fix... or will they not thread on to my new inners?

i guess the real question is do all fox mustang tie rods have the same size inner tie rod threads?

Sandy · Post by **Sandy** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:55 pm

84 85 & 86 COUPES (NOT 'Verts....COUPES) have had their tie rod tips changed by ascMcLaren. But, I never was able to find out WHAT was subsitiuted.

I was told that they were from the SVO, but I pass that on to you as "heresay" ~ I don't know it for a FACT.

jds3660 · Post by **jds3660** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:36 am

It was my understanding that the tie rod ends - for the coupes - were from a Thunderbird. I don't recall if they were from V8 or Turbo Coupe birds, though.....

I believe they were changed to help with bump steer.

Sandy · Post by **Sandy** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:31 am

Thanks for jogging the old memory. Thunderbird Turbo Coupe is the one !!

plumkrazy · Post by **plumkrazy** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:45 pm

Supposed to be a bit longer than stock Mustang ones. Part number: E2SZ-3A130-A

From Mikes N site.

Peter I will do some checking at work today

tfs2121 · Post by **tfs2121** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:40 pm

yeah the t bird ends had a longer stud that goes through the spindle and that helps with bump steer.... but on my new tie rod ends only the threds on the stud will go through the hole in the spindle the taperd part is too big.... and the nut goes on like 2 threds

thanks for any help

Post by **negusm** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:28 pm

Can you get a picture of the difference in the parts? Original vs replacement?

tfs2121 · Post by **tfs2121** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:59 pm

yeah i can... i just want to know if a 85 tie rod will screw onto a 87-93 rack

Post by **negusm** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:51 pm

79-93 racks come in 2 types. Ford and TRW.

The TRW racks were used only for the regular ratio racks.

The Ford racks came in both regular ratio (20:1, 3 turns lock to lock, same as trw) and also the Sport Steering quicker ratio (19:1, 2.5 turns lock to lock).

The two racks you have are the same right? One is 1 piece and one is a two piece rack. I don't know which is which.

I think either type stayed the same from 79-93.

-Mike

tfs2121 · Post by **tfs2121** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:26 pm

i have a manual rack that i got from unisteer it came with new tie rod ends
when i try to put the new ends in the hole its to small none of the taperd part of the tie rod fit into the hole its to big

hole to small
tie rod to big

is the tie rod ment for a 87-93 fox?
can i just buy a 85 tie rod and it fit on the inner tie rod and in the hole?

Post by **negusm** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:52 pm

Thing is, Peter, I don't know if there is any difference in 79-86 vs 87-93 for tie rod threads.

I am under the impression there is not.

This is an FEP question. I would shoot over there and ask. Those guys will know immediately.

-Mike

Sandy · Post by **Sandy** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:05 pm

If you get a reply, Mike, please post it here, as well. Inquiring minds need to know, ya know!

tfs2121 · Post by **tfs2121** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:36 pm

negusm wrote:Thing is, Peter, I don't know if there is any difference in 79-86 vs 87-93 for tie rod threads.

I am under the impression there is not.

This is an FEP question. I would shoot over there and ask. Those guys will know immediately.

-Mike

thats what i was going to do but i know alot of the FEP guys come through here... ill try them over there

plumkrazy · Post by **plumkrazy** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:45 am

Ok I did some digging and in the MOOG catalog the only thing that is different about the T-bird tie rod is that it's .87 inch longer the stud and taper are the same. Which is not Peters problem his stud is too short

I think he has the wrong outer tie rod. Maybe a Type II stang part.

Sandy · Post by **Sandy** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:55 am

If they are that similiar, why would ASC go to the trouble of changing them?

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