OSHA

tfs2121 · Post by **tfs2121** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:39 am

does anyone know if OSHA can really actuly MAKE you whare safty glasses. like whats the big deal? i get more stuff in my eye with them then with out them.

OSHA showed up at my shop today. they said its a $1500 fine for each guy with out them. why cant it just be by choice?

has anyone delt wiht OSHA in the past?

tfs2121 · Post by **tfs2121** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:40 am

one more thing i hate OSHA

Post by **negusm** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:44 am

Yes, yes they can.

More importantly thy can shut your employer down.

-Mike

tfs2121 · Post by **tfs2121** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:56 am

i just dont get why. i know working in a shop is not safe. but guess what lots of jobs are dangerous. i smoke cigarettes i know they can kill me... and i cant get fined for doing it.

its just stupid. what happend to being free. yet for 12 hours a day i have to have stupid glasses on my face. agenst what i want. what gives them the right...

Post by **negusm** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:11 am

Unions fought for it a long time ago.

It's better that you are given the chance to protect yourself than your employer deciding that the loss in productivity is not worth your safety.

I don't think OSHA would fine you, they would fine your employer for not training you to do your job safely.

-Mike

Sandy · Post by **Sandy** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:05 am

Peter, on a day off of work, take yourself to a local decent sized hospital, go in and go to the cancer center. Ask a rep to acompany you to the infusion center. walk through it, slowly & look around. When you get back to your car, you will throw the butts out the window for good. You will have nightmares that night. It will be well worth them.

I am beginning to slowly enjoy life again. I am on my 2nd lifetime. I am one of the few lucky ones. I was Stage 4. 20 percent make it back from
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Peter,
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R-U ready, for that ? QUIT cigarettes tomorrow,

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rod442 · Post by **rod442** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:48 am

Also, if you think you get more stuff in your eyes with safety glasses on; maybe you do. Untill they one time that they stop something big and sharp and fast from getting in there. Or a chemical, or somehting hot.

Friend of mine works at a ford dealer, and the only time he had to go to the emergency room for somehting in his eye, was when he skipped his safety glasses. Using a wire wheel, or a bench grinder (I forget), and a few metal shavings went in his eye. He was lucky, no bad damage, they were small bits.

Only takes one time to go blind.

plumkrazy · Post by **plumkrazy** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:24 am

Wear Them When Doing WORK.

I wear Glass, And could wear contacts or have surgury but have decided not to Because I know I would not want to wear safety glass at work. It 's Not the small stuff that is the problem It s the Chemicals and large stuff that the lens save ya from.

Ps. Last year my glasses saved me from a Major spash of gas to the eyes. Which was caused by somebody else doing something wrong.

OSHA is truely a good thing in the long run.

tfs2121 · Post by **tfs2121** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:58 pm

i have got gas in my eyes with them on. i just dont like them. i dont have glasses and if i did i would still have to get perscription saftly glasses.

if your not being a dumbass its real easy to stay safe. but if your sticking your face into something when your grinding your just dumb.

also we will be requierd to have them on whenever in the shop. working or not working.

i thought there might be ways around it. im sure im not the first person to not want them. the OSHA guy told me that they are #2 on the list right behind the IRS.

i guess if i am stuck having to do it does anyone know whare i can get safty glasses with a metal frame?

Post by **negusm** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:18 pm

To be honest, the modern safety glasses are so non-intrusive, I don't really see your objection as being valid.

She doesn't look too uncomfortable in hers:

-Mike

85McLaren · Post by **85McLaren** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:55 pm

A lot of it is an insurance issue. If I wear glasses, they probably won't ever have to pay a hostpical bill. If I don't, they might get slapped with thousands of dollars in medical bills. I realize we are talking about OSHA, but this is close to the same reason why employers make safety regulations mandatory. As sad as it is, it is not that they care about your personal well-being. It is to save them possible future insurance money.

Jason

tfs2121 · Post by **tfs2121** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:28 am

comfortable to me is nothing on my face... i guess im stuck with them.

even when our insurance company comes in they dont freek out if we dont have glasses on.

i guess you guys have made your point. no way around it. so does anyone know whare i can get a nice quality pair. something thats not a plastic frame.

plumkrazy · Post by **plumkrazy** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:00 am

the Guys I work with like the plastic frame glasses. Just keep trying them on till you find some you like

75coug · Post by **75coug** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:05 am

tfs2121 wrote:i just dont get why. i know working in a shop is not safe. but guess what lots of jobs are dangerous. i smoke cigarettes i know they can kill me... and i cant get fined for doing it.

its just stupid. what happend to being free. yet for 12 hours a day i have to have stupid glasses on my face. agenst what i want. what gives them the right...

Here's why: Let's say that you don't wear them and suffer a serious eye injury. All of a sudden, you wouldn't be saying that it's stupid. Instead, you would be making a claim against your employer for not making you wear them.

As someone who used to do insurance defense legal work, I have seen millions of dollars paid to plaintiffs who thought that it was stupid to wear eye protection, head protection or tie-offs during work at excessive heights. Once they were hurt, they shifted the blame to their employer for "failure to train" (e.g., "they didn't make me wear my protection").

Are you and your union willing to agree that you alone are on the hook if you get hurt while not wearing safety glasses? Of course not.

Post by **negusm** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:32 am

Peter, it's also like wearing seat belts.

It's kind of annoying at first but after you use it for a month, it will be second nature and you will feel "naked" when working without them.

-Mike